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Political Spew 05.08.08

Posted May 8, 2008

Star Tribune: Farmers feeling a bit bloated and gassy
Scholar's Notebook: MN House offers Margaret Spellings a shocker
Dolan Media: "Honey, don't you think our taxes are too high?" "Yes dear, lets move to Arkansas."
MPR: It's Newt Gingrich's fault.

» Categories: politics | Author: richg


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14 Comments:


The Dolan Media tidbit makes me laugh.
»» Submitted by »»» yoder at 6:58 PM on May 8



"People usually vote with their feet," he said. "When things get tough, they move."

Yep in Minnesota we import welfare recipients and export fortune 500 companies.
»» Submitted by swandog at 10:03 AM on May 9



maybe the fortune500s leave because we're stuck in the fucking dark ages because the state can't cough up any goddamned money for infrastructure
»» Submitted by wayno at 10:06 AM on May 9



Dimler was before my time, but I can't imagine any more lasting honor than having an amendment named after you.


»» Submitted by kevin at 10:10 AM on May 9



maybe the fortune500s leave because we're stuck in the fucking dark ages because the state can't cough up any goddamned money for infrastructure

Taxes are a cost of doing business, if they rise they leave. We have roads to deliver goods and services.
»» Submitted by swandog at 10:10 AM on May 9



yeah, everyone wants a free ride

we want infrastructure, but not to pay for it!

good one.
»» Submitted by wayno at 10:24 AM on May 9



yeah, everyone wants a free ride

we want infrastructure, but not to pay for it!

good one


Free ride? We are one of the top taxed states in the country, how is that a free ride. It is more of priorities that are fucked up. We have plenty of money for roads just cut the bullshit our of the budget and build roads no one has an argument against that.
»» Submitted by swandog at 10:28 AM on May 9



maybe the fortune500s leave because we're stuck in the fucking dark ages because the state can't cough up any goddamned money for infrastructure

Taxes are a cost of doing business, if they rise they leave. We have roads to deliver goods and services.


Taxes tend to be pretty far down the list of factors.

The companies we lose move because they get bought up by a larger company.

Norwest got bought out by the larger Wells Fargo and moved to California, a state with much higher tax rates than MN.

Honeywell got bought up by a larger company and moved it's headquarters to NJ, another state with higher taxes than MN.

If taxes were such a decisive factor, where is the flood of businesses moving from MN to SD? Bill Cooper could have pretty easily moved TCF headquarters to SD to save money on taxes, but he never did.
»» Submitted by »»» mnblrmkr at 10:31 AM on May 9



We have plenty of money for roads just cut the bullshit our of the budget and build roads no one has an argument against that.

What you call bullshit, others call a room at the nursing home, or a chemo session, or an education.
»» Submitted by »»» mnblrmkr at 10:33 AM on May 9



Or better yet, why don't corporations locate their headquarters in tax havens like Grand Cayman if taxes are so important.

Bottom line, corporations base their decisions on supply chain issues, how easy it is to get quality employees and a variety of other issues. Taxes don't enter the equation very often. Especially given how many ways corporations have to weasel out of them.
»» Submitted by »»» richg at 10:52 AM on May 9



What you call bullshit, others call a room at the nursing home, or a chemo session, or an education.

That's such BS. Nobody calls those "bullshit".

Here's bullshit: We gave out $152,017.89 last year to commericals for Grand Casino, Best Buy, Qwest, Select Comfort and other companies. And another $363,460.38 for television series; and another $260,033.64 for films. Thus meeting that core responsibility of government to...sell beds? $152,017.89 would fund 11 students in Minneapolis ($13,701/student) or 18 students in Hinckley ($8,325/student) or 19 students in Milaca. Talk about "investing".

»» Submitted by kevin at 12:02 PM on May 9



What you call bullshit, others call a room at the nursing home, or a chemo session, or an education

Or, stadiums, bike paths, welfare payments to those capable of working, corporate welfare give outs, Salaries for unnecessary state employee's, numerous colleges that teach the same thing, trains to nowhere. When taxes come up it is always about the "kids" or "old people" give me a break.
»» Submitted by swandog at 1:15 PM on May 9



Here's bullshit: We gave out $152,017.89 last year to commericals for Grand Casino, Best Buy, Qwest, Select Comfort and other companies. And another $363,460.38 for television series; and another $260,033.64 for films. Thus meeting that core responsibility of government to...sell beds? $152,017.89 would fund 11 students in Minneapolis ($13,701/student) or 18 students in Hinckley ($8,325/student) or 19 students in Milaca. Talk about "investing".

Absolute and total bullshit, I could not agree with you more.
»» Submitted by swandog at 1:16 PM on May 9



Numerous colleges that teach the same thing? Would you prefer a system that has one school for welding, another for journalism, etc.etc.etc.?
»» Submitted by »»» richg at 2:25 PM on May 9



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